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There's no subst...That's a good suggestion, Madtom. There's no substitute for factual information.Brunohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11455545060335228501noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9923676.post-26751372726861757292007-11-07T06:16:00.000+03:002007-11-07T06:16:00.000+03:00Well TT there is one thing I do know. You are now ...Well TT there is one thing I do know. You are now connected to the world. You can send samples of the suspect materials to any number of labs all around the world. You can pick and choose which labs are run by people that you trust, and they can mail you back the results within a few weeks. there is no need to trust when you have a way to verify.madtomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17609777902535328244noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9923676.post-13704609496805317262007-11-05T16:03:00.000+03:002007-11-05T16:03:00.000+03:00Dear Truthteller, this does sound rather fishy. Is...Dear Truthteller, this does sound rather fishy. Isn't the Ministry of Health run by sectarian Iraqis sympathetic to Iran? It would seem strange that they would spread a story that contradicts their basic stance. Frankly I would be careful before believing this before testing the insulin for the virus. There's a lot of dirty tricks and misinformation floating around in Iraq today, maybe it's a trick designed to make people angry.<BR/><BR/>PS - Last I heard, the Ministry of Health was in a shambles. Does this warning mean that they are doing their work again? Is such a thing possible? ;)Brunohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11455545060335228501noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9923676.post-22111800285047953142007-11-03T17:51:00.000+03:002007-11-03T17:51:00.000+03:00Recalls of medicines and foodstuffs (and children'...Recalls of medicines and foodstuffs (and children's toys) aren't rare in places where there is at least some level of oversight. Frankly, I take that as another good sign of at least some progress in Iraq. <BR/><BR/>According to several sources I found on the internet, there has never been a single documented case of HIV transmission due to the multi-use of medication vials. An extensive study done by the Canadian Laboratory for disease control, could not find any viable HIV in vials that had been intentionally contaminated for purposes of determining risks in such cases. They also examined thousands of vials that had been used in the public and could find no viable HIV. <BR/><BR/>Also, HIV is very difficult to keep viable in anything other than human fluids, and even then, it must be maintained within fairly narrow temperature and oxygen exposure parameters. <BR/><BR/>I'm far from a doctor and I would welcome being corrected if I misunderstood, but this sounds unlikely to be a legitimate concern and is to further some agenda other than concern for the risks to patients. Or, perhaps it's just a knee jerk reaction to a wild rumor that will be corrected as more is known. <BR/><BR/>I hope you don't suffer some repercussions for publicly releasing material that was labeled 'TOP SECRET'. On the other hand, I can think of good reasons to want it kept secret, so maybe you should suffer some repercussions?B Will Derdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03866882456561820457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9923676.post-88833951110717534472007-11-03T16:24:00.000+03:002007-11-03T16:24:00.000+03:00madtomIt is not a lie, I have seen the source noti...madtom<BR/><BR/>It is not a lie, I have seen the source notice signed by the governor of Nineveh Duraid Cashmoola,and bythe Directorate of Health.Truth tellerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10184673505956673881noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9923676.post-3139462410783372442007-11-03T16:18:00.000+03:002007-11-03T16:18:00.000+03:00surprisingly, it is not the first time that a thre...surprisingly, it is not the first time that a threat from imported items from Iran occurred specially the food stuff.<BR/>one time, a kooking oil contaminated with poisonous material 8n very small amount!, second , the wheat found to be mixed with additives not suitable to human use.<BR/><BR/>Those are not rumors, the warnings were broad casted through the official TV channel! <BR/><BR/>I don't know if those contaminants were found at Mosul only or at other areas of Iraq.Truth tellerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10184673505956673881noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9923676.post-58986726869503067002007-11-03T13:11:00.000+03:002007-11-03T13:11:00.000+03:00This is an oddity I certainly can't hope to solve ...This is an oddity I certainly can't hope to solve from half a world away but there are several possibilities that suggest themselves.<BR/>1. The notice may be counterfeit, not really from the directorate of health. There are a lot of terrorists in the Mosul area with strong anti-Iran convictions, so those people may have prepared a fake notice from the M.O.H. just to stir up trouble.<BR/><BR/>2. If the notice is NOT counterfeit, then <BR/><BR/>a. it may be that the risk to patients is low and therefore the M.O.H. wants to inform doctors but not frighten patients, <BR/>or<BR/>b. it may be that the M.O.H. is afraid the public might become aware of outrageous criminal negligence and insist on a few lynchings.<BR/><BR/>If I had to guess, I'd say explanations 1 and 2a are the most plausible. I think the criminally negligent people who are responsible for sending the hospitals of Iraq skimpy supplies and drugs of questionable quality have long ago proved to themselves that they are above the law and not in any danger of a public backlash.<BR/><BR/>What did this "official" warning say to do with any supplies of insulin with a "made in Iran" label? <BR/><BR/>How probable is it that viable aids virus could be spread via insulin? I thought aids was spread mainly by human contact and via contaminated fluids of human origin (blood, urine, saliva, semen, etc). <BR/><BR/>How would aids virus wind up in an insulin vial, and could it actually survive in that insulin solution?<BR/><BR/>I would check the authenticity of this notice and be suspicious of it.<BR/><BR/>Please let us know if you find out anything more about this.waldschrathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14397062516974543459noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9923676.post-65975420600539236882007-11-03T07:11:00.000+03:002007-11-03T07:11:00.000+03:00Because it's a lie.Because it's a lie.madtomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17609777902535328244noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9923676.post-58951600035296650252007-11-02T23:43:00.000+03:002007-11-02T23:43:00.000+03:00I dunno. Maybe they judged that the risks presente...I dunno. Maybe they judged that the risks presented by the possible contamination of some vials was less that the likely certain harm that would be done by publicly announcing the possible risks? You know, diabetics might not take their medication bringing about widespread instances of diabetic comas and such when the risks posed by use of the medications are relatively minor. I guess you know better since you decided to ignore the 'top secret' advisory and ask the public at large the reasons for not going public instead of trusting or asking the professionals who made that judgment to start with.<BR/><BR/>Then again, maybe there is some conspiracy behind it. Why don't you call the ministry and find out?B Will Derdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03866882456561820457noreply@blogger.com