The students returned to school to complate their study.The sources from where I got these pictures are:
Electonic Iraq
Electronic Iraq 2
May be those are enough evidences about what the people of Falloja suffered.
Friday, April 08, 2005
Some pictures from Falloja
Those are some pictures taken in Falloja city after the war there, they showed the amount of damage to some buildings in the city, mainly schools.
The students returned to school to complate their study.The sources from where I got these pictures are:
Electonic Iraq
Electronic Iraq 2
May be those are enough evidences about what the people of Falloja suffered.
The students returned to school to complate their study.The sources from where I got these pictures are:
Electonic Iraq
Electronic Iraq 2
May be those are enough evidences about what the people of Falloja suffered.
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Looking beyond Falluja, there was a recent article about child malnutrition in Iraq which can be found here:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/4413457.stm
It seems that although a UN report suggests there is more child malnutrition no than before the invasion this report is disputed. One claim is that vaccination programs have "improved dramatically" since the fall of Saddam.
Who shall we believe? Can you as a medical doctor tell us if children in Mosul are hungry and whether they have recieved proper vaccinations?
No one claimed there was no fighting or damage in Fallujah. I think we're all aware that there was extensive fighting (emphasis on the word fighting, meaning there were two sides involved). So now it's important to make sure the damages are repaired and rebuilt for the good people of Fallujah.
Ahmad.
First go see my blog today, I posted something in response to what you said.
Some links for you:
Please go through them... and then tell us with a straight face that Fallujah has not been nearly completely levelled and most of its' citizens displaced.
(Found these in about 5 minutes of flipping through images at Google.. keyword, fallujah.
http://globalguerrillas.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/fallujah_1120042.jpg
http://www.cbc.ca/story/world/national/2004/09/13/fallujah040913.html
http://www.underthesamesun.org/images/fallujah%20hospital.jpg
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-10/446384/Fallujah.gif (the bridge in the distance is where the american soldiers were burned and hung)
http://www.fallujah.us/photos/Fallujah-Pullout-2.jpg
http://www.fallujah.us/photos/Associated%20Press%20Dispatch%2011-13-04%20-%203.jpg
http://www.fallujah.us/photos/Associated%20Press%20Dispatch%2011-13-04%20-%205.jpg
http://www.fallujah.us/photos/Associated%20Press%20Dispatch%2011-13-04%20-%202.jpg
http://www.fallujah.us/photos/IRAQ_FALLUJAH_ANS122.JPG
Or you could read this:
http://207.44.245.159/article7413.htm
alright.. that's enough for now.
if you still don't believe it then you probably never will.
sorry.. the link didn't work to my blog I'll try again:
Murkyview.com
Anonymous 8:52:24-
Your photo links show what we already know. No one denies there was massive fighting in Fallujah. Nobody denies that most of the citizens were displaced during the fighting. In fact, they were encouraged to displace so they wouldn't be in the crossfire when the fighting began. There was a huge fight in Fallujah. That's what a huge fight looks like.
Maybe you were expecting to see an amusement park?
waldschrat
As a medical doctor knowing about the situation of vaccination in Iraq. It was perfect before the war.
All the vaccines are available free to the whole population. Every 6 months groups of medics with different vaccines scan all the villages to vaccinate the people who couldn't consult the medical centers. but we don't hear about single trial to vaccinate people after the invasion. the cause is propably the security situation!. But no body could claimed that vaccination programs have improved a pit.
About the malnutrition: During the period 1991-2003, there were a program in which every single person (from the new burn to the very old) received a fixed amount of different food stuff (Wheat, vegetable oil, sugar, tea, beans, rice, milk powder, table salt, soap, and detergent powder) every month. The amount of these foods sections are insufficient for ordinary person, but it supported the poor families, and it did prevent malnutrition in Iraq to an acceptable level.
After the occupation, the program continues but the arrival of the food stuffs to the people is usually delayed for several months (the sections of most of the stuffs for Oct. Nov. and Dec.) of the last year didn't raech the people till now.(again the cause could be the security!).
In addition there are an inflation in the markets, propably the rich people didn't affected by it, but the poor certainly did.
For example: A can of ordinary baby milk was cost about 250 ID before the war. Now it cost about 5000 ID.
From this you can decide who should you believe.
"About the malnutrition: During the period 1991-2003, there were a program in which every single person (from the new burn to the very old) received a fixed amount of different food stuff (Wheat, vegetable oil, sugar, tea, beans, rice, milk powder, table salt, soap, and detergent powder) every month. The amount of these foods sections are insufficient for ordinary person, but it supported the poor families, and it did prevent malnutrition in Iraq to an acceptable level. "
So you're basically saying malnutrition was not a major problem during the "sanctions" period of 1991-2003?
Interesting. That's the opposite of what we've all been told over the years by anti-sanctions groups, peace groups and even UNICEF.
Thank you, Truth Teller, for the answers about vaccination and food distribution. I trust your report more than the report of the BBC, I think.
You mention security as a problem. Did security in Mosul become worse after Falluja? This is what I understand from the media, but your perception is probably more accurate.
Also, is there any real improvement in security in Mosul recently? Are Iraqis in Mosul becoming more safe or less safe? And do you see any benefit to security from recent meetings of the elected assembly? Is the political situation becoming more acceptable or less acceptable to most people in Mosul?
Hello truthteller,
I hate seeing this, I am embarrassed, aghast. 'They' said it had to be done...I objected at the time but here it is. A great injury has been done, how is the US not responsible for this mistake?
I agree with maddog!
like all new democracies it will take work to restore what you have lost. Nobody said that there would not be damage and hard time. But what price are the iraqi people willing to pay for the freedom they wish for. In the end is it worth the lost buildings and lives to finally have the freedom you deserve. Americans have suffered the same lose as the Iraqi. We have sent innocent men and women to a land that is not theirs, to die for an idea that all iraqis deserve to be free. As you write in this blog you say and express your ideas freely.I wonder if you still lived under the rule of saddam if you would be so free with your expressions or if fear would temper your words. The photos you show are apart of your world, they are painful to look at and I know life is hard now, but the rewards of the struggle will be great for the iraqi people. And though some innocent lives will be lost on both sides, in the end you can enjoy the freedom that was paid for by the lives of our brothers!
truth teller,
Are you suggesting that your country was better off under the rule of saddam?
If U.S. were to pull out of your country tonight with in a week you all would be living under the rule of another dictator probably as bad if not worst than saddam.
But in my opinion if your country is so much worse now maybe they should free saddam and let him get it back to the good life you all enjoyed!
"We have sent innocent men and women to a land that is not theirs, to die for an idea that all iraqis deserve to be free."
I don't believe in the statements by Bush saying we are in Iraq to bring "freedom and democracy" any more than I believed the "Saddam has WMDs and is a threat to the USA" crap.
According to what Perle said the other day to the US Senate, they were fooled about the WMDs because of "double agents".... which means double agents are influencing and directing our federal government!
And no appologies from any damn one of them... to Americans or Iraqis! They don't give a rip who dies, as long as they make a bunch of money.
Similar picture from Saudi Arabia.
"I think we're all aware that there was extensive fighting (emphasis on the word fighting, meaning there were two sides involved)."
Most of the destruction of the city of Falluja (a population of 300,000 qualifies Falluja as a city, not a town) was from over a month of daily bombings, followed up by weeks of bombing day and night, day and night. If that is what you like to call fighting with two sides involved, then you have a different concept of fighting than the rest of the world.
not a dhimmi
you expecting that I will delete your comment. perhaps you know how silly it was. I will not argue with you. your post deserve nothing but deletion.
Those US Marines sure know how to make their point. I wonder why we don't see the evidence of the use of chemical weapons, napalm, depleted uranium shells, raped and massacred citizens that you passed off as unquestionable fact in an earlier post? I would sure like to see some evidence of all those wholesale atrocities we were supposed to weep about. Certainly it would tell the story so much better if you began your picture collection with the butchered Americans swinging from that bridge leading into Fallujah. An effective 'actions and their consequences' presentation, the whole conflict represented in pictures of one battle. C'mon "Truthteller"--this the best you can come up with to support those hysterical lies you associated yourself with? A man would have apologized for such lies by now. Especially if he had the gall to present himself as THE Truthteller.
Thankfully, the Marines and Army have not had to do the same in other cities of Iraq on such a large scale--cities like Mosul. The people of Fallujah aren't dancing around the burned and dismembered bodies of US citizens any more, and I doubt they'd tolerate such behavior in their community--not openly anyway. The pacification of Fallujah was a great object lesson for all of the Middle East. This crazy fanaticism isn't working out so good. Those numbers seeking martyrdom seem to be on the decline all over. The majority who tolerate or fear the jihadists gotta figure they better fear US Marines more than the religious nuts. In the twisted and irrational and backward culture that seems to dominate there, cowardice and self preservation seem to drive more rational thought in most. It is a shame you folks have let your world come to this over the last few centuries. Even a bigger shame that the world's supply of oil upon which we have come to depend is sitting below that land. Otherwise the culture there would have to depend more upon the talents of its people and freedom of thought to at least maintain some remnant of dignity, and perhaps thrive and contribute something of worth to the rest of the world. Or fail utterly and completely in which case the rest of the world could condescendingly ignore it as it would richly deserve.
Zoellick spent an hour with Fallujah's interim city council leaders at a secure military compound in the heart of the city. He wore a business suit — with a flak jacket beneath it.
At first, Council Chairman Shaik Khalid Hamood Mahel al Jumaly, thanked the United States and praised the U.S. Marines for ridding the city of insurgents.
I would really like to know how you consider vaccinations and and malnutrition such an issue in mosul, I went to the mosul medical center the other day to check on medical suplies that were donated, and I have to say that corruption is the key ingrediant to a failing medical system...same goes for the food banks...blame Mohamed Shakara for that one. I to live in mosul, I think the problems here are the fault of the terrorist and criminals not the Americans.
anonymous@12:11:44
If you read what I said carefully, you will notice that I considered the vaccination and malnutrition are warse than before. Notice that you go to check for medical supplies that were DONATED !!!!!!. Iraq now be worthy of donation from others !!!! What a shame.
The fault of whom, is the only thing you could argue about.
It is one of two:
1-It is the Americans fault, as they are the responsible of every thing here, samll or big. No thing done without their permission.
2-It is because of the Americans. As far as it was better before their "intention to impose freedom and democracy". Which make Iraq a field for the terrorists, who come from every where to fight America.
The terrorists and their crimes are the result of the occupation. What ever they do is because of the occupation.
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