Thank you for your comments. I took a decision not to respond to strykerdad comments, his way in discussion is very irritating, but as he lately offer to help Iraqi patients, I have to reconsider my decision. I may understood him wrongly.
I have those pictures of the Spider bites (the camel spider). I was hesitating to publish them, but your comment encouraged me to do so.
pmusu
Hi from Iraq
thank you for your wishes, the people in Iraq wish you and all the people of the Island of Malta the same.
strykerdad
"TT, has anyone from your group tried to contact anyone connected to the Task force? I am having some trouble understanding how a clinic connected to a large hospital and with funds to spend is unable to obtain such a commonly available medical appliance. Is that true of all similar items?"
I am sure you will have some trouble understanding how the situation is here in Iraq. You believe what you want, and every other thing is just a lie.
Off course no one of my group tried to contact any one connected to the Task force. The reason we don't trust that they are here to help, or at least that is what we feel.
BTW the Oncology hospital is not a large one, it is the smallest hospital in Mosul, there is no funds to spend in any way. When I say "we don't want money because we have enough", I meant by we, the patients and the staff working in the Ostomy Unit.
The lack of Ostomy appliances is a minor thing among the lack of Medicines, mainly the Cytotoxic drugs, and the lack of Narcotic analgesic used to relieve cancer pain.
Most of the Hospital in Mosul are Governmental including the Oncologyand Nuclear Medicine Hospital. That mean they receive their supplies of medicines and medical appliances from the Ministry of Health, not through any organization. Even the items reached the hospital as assistants from other Organizations, they should inform the MOH about them.
"TT seems less than wildly enthused by the offers of help, but as others have pointed out, there may be many different reasons for that apparent lack."
Sure, I am not so excited by the offer of help, because we were disappointed several times before, many promises but nothing happened. In addition, you and all the warmongers consider me/us your enemy, your duty is to kill not to help, the picture of a marine killing a wounded person in Falluja is still in front of my eyes. How a killer can be so humanitarian.
Also my request was to heiko who offer to help by himself.
As a matter of fact, if I have the chance to make a request I probably chose the availability of the medicines, specially the Cytotoxic and the major narcotic analgesic.
24 comments:
"...you and all the warmongers consider me/us your enemy, your duty is to kill not to help,"
Right now I am royally pissed off. I may eventually leave a coherent comment but I am going to have to sleep on it.
Truth Teller -
I am still studying the problem of delivering medical supplies to Mosul.
There are several aspects to the problem:
1. Private citizens in the U.S. do not have easy access to prescription drugs. Hypothetically a private citizen here might order drugs shipped from abroad BUT quality would be highly suspect. This means the types of things ordinary citizens can send is very limited. Ostomy supplies can be sent, but for drugs and many other things the cooperation of a doctor or hospital or medical supply company will be required.
2. Shipping is a problem. This includes several aspects: the exact delivery point address, the shipping carrier which will transport the material, possible customs requirements and regulations, the matter of shipment prepartion (shipping to Mosul is much different from shipping to typical US addresses), and possible language problems (people in the US will have a hard time with Arabic, people in Mosul may have difficulty with English).
You identified the "Oncology and Nuclear Medicine Hospital" as the place to send ostomy supplies.
In the US I am accustomed to sending documents and packages to an address that includes
a. The name of a person or business, such as "Cancer Center - UCD Medical Center"
b. A building number and street name, such as "4501 X St"
c. The city, state, and postal code, such as "Sacramento, CA 95817".
d. A postal address code, such as "95819".
I found a reference in a UN document to "Hazim Al Hafid Oncology And Nuclear Medicine Hospital" in Mosul at grid coordinates 36.33333333 LAT, 43.13338333 LONG . Please tell me if a package addressed in english to
"Oncolology and Nuclear Medicine Hospital
Mosul, Iraq" will be understood in Mosul by an experienced delivery person (perhaps somebody like a taxi driver who speaks english). Would "Hazim Al Hafid Oncology And Nuclear Medicine Hospital" be a better name for the delivery point? Is a street name and building number needed? Is there a postal zone number or code that would commonly be used?
"Fedex" is the only US shipper I am aware of that can ship to civilian addresses in Mosul, but there may be others. Fedex's representative in the middle east is "Raven", if I recall. If your hospital or clinic receives international shipments of any sort, can you tell us what shipping carrier or carriers deliver them? Have you seen any packages marked "Fedex" or "Raven"?
I have heard of some medical shipments being delayed by customs (and also reported problems with materials which were out of date or poor quality). Do you know anything about such problems?
3. There is still the problem of knowing exactly what is needed, and of paying for it. Packages of 20 ostomy bags seem to cost about $100, and $300 would be required to send bags in small, medium and large sizes. I could probably afford that but I suspect it would be a long way from solving the long term problem. Certainly it would be impossible for me or most private citizens to buy everything a small hospital needs. All I can do personally is try to help in a small way. What is truly needed is to organize an ordering and delivery system that would allow you to order what you need from wherever in the world it is available, a system for delivering shipments from suppliers, a system to obtain money from some source(Iraq Health Ministry??? Mosul government??? US government?? Charities in Iraq or other nations??? Patients???), and a system to deliver payment for shipments received. I assume your hospital and clinic have tried to do this sort of thing. Perhaps you can tell us what the most difficult parts of the supply problems you face are.
a. Are you able to identify suppliers of what you need?
b. Are you able to communicate to those suppliers what they should send you?
c. Is there a reliable shipment method for delivering supplies you order?
d. Are you able to obtain sufficient money to pay for the supplies you need?
e. Is there a reliable method you can use to send payment for shipments received?
I know this is a lot of questions. If you can answer as many as possible it will help others to help you.
waldschrat
"I found a reference in a UN document to "Hazim Al Hafid Oncology And Nuclear Medicine Hospital" in Mosul at grid coordinates 36.33333333 LAT, 43.13338333 LONG . Please tell me if a package addressed in english to
"Oncolology and Nuclear Medicine Hospital, Mosul, Iraq" will be understood in Mosul by an experienced delivery person (perhaps somebody like a taxi driver who speaks english). Would "Hazim Al Hafid Oncology And Nuclear Medicine Hospital" be a better name for the delivery point? Is a street name and building number needed? Is there a postal zone number or code that would commonly be used?"
"Hazim Al Hafid Oncology And Nuclear Medicine Hospital" is the old name of the "Oncolology and Nuclear Medicine Hospital", The name has been changed after the occupation, for no reason..
The hospital located in a collection of buildings, all hospitals, called the Medical City. It is a well known place to every body here in Mosul as all the important hospital are there. There is no street name! and no building number!
The city is Mosul, no postal code, there are no states only Mosul, Iraq. and that is enough.
I didn't come in contact with any imported shipment, as all the Medicine and Medical appliances are imported and distributed by the MOH. Even the assistant shipment of any kind came through the MOH. All our needs and order should go through the same path via the MOH. It is an old and complicated routine.
" Are you able to identify suppliers of what you need? " Yes.
"Are you able to communicate to those suppliers what they should send you?" Yes
" Is there a reliable shipment method for delivering supplies you order? " No
"Are you able to obtain sufficient money to pay for the supplies you need?" No, The hospital needs are too much beyond our abilities.
"Is there a reliable method you can use to send payment for shipments received?" I don't know, but probably not.
dan
You have a comical imagination. Any way thank you for your thinking in me.
I am still in my house sitting infront of the computer and my daughter waiting me to allow them to use the internet as they made a schedule evry day for one of them, I have no turn, but I can use the computer any time I want.
Truth Teller, that infection picture you posted is pretty gruesome. I hope whoever that is in the photo is alright now.
I do have to disagree with you there. I've been reading your families' blogs since Najma started hers and while I may disagree with some things I have always respected you and your daughters as kind of educated Sunni Muslims Iraq is going to need if it will become a truly democratic and free country. When others have accused you of being a Baathist mouthpiece or of spreading misinformation I've cut you a lot of slack. But even you know better than to think all Amerrican or indeed all Americans in the military, even doctors like yourselves, are your enemy who wish you dead. I don't think even you really believe that. Your daughters have many American friends via the Internet who care about them (like myself) and the rest of your family and I'm sure you know all about that. You and your wife have even lived in the States for awhile so you know many American. Your oldest daughter, Aya's mother, was born in the US (according to your wife) which would by US law automatically make your daughter elgible to be a US citizen. Now you might say there is a difference between the "ordinary" American and the US military but I don't agree. Many US soldiers are not much older than your daughters, I hardly think they want to "kill" you and the US military is made up of many non-combatants who lend support (like doctors and engineers, professions I'm sure you're familiar with) who don't carry weapons even if they wear military uniforms. How are they trying to kill you. Come on, an educated man like yourself knows better than that. There are many people in the US who would like nothing better to help the people of Mosul and Iraq, some of them even work for the US government.
I am curious about your hospital though - who was Hazim Al Hafid that he gets a hospital named after him? Was he a Baathist? Because if he wasn't I don't understand why they would change the name of the hospital for no reason.
jack bennett
'But even you know better than to think all Amerrican or indeed all Americans in the military, even doctors like yourselves, are your enemy who wish you dead. I don't think even you really believe that."
Hi "jack bennett"
I read the comments section in my daughter's blog, I Knew the real American viewpoints, I really respect you, and all the American in general. What I have said was about the war advogates who comment in this blog, They said it frankly more than once that they consider me as an enemy. My exact words were "In addition, you and all the warmongers consider me/us your enemy, your duty is to kill not to help."
I also lived in the US for a while and still have American friends, but I am sure that not all the people are the same in every part of the world. My be my English is not so good that I can't declare myself precisely.
"I am curious about your hospital though - who was Hazim Al Hafid that he gets a hospital named after him? Was he a Baathist? Because if he wasn't I don't understand why they would change the name of the hospital for no reason."
Hazim Alhafid was an Oncologist and Radiotherapist. He was the Director of the hospital from 1985 - 1995. He was not a Baathist and has no political activities. He developed Cancer of the Colon and died at 1995, he continue traeting patient till he died. Even when he was very ill and can't come to the hospital, the patients went to his house to be treated there, his son was a medical student at that time, wrote the medicine for him to the patients. When he died, We (the members of the cancer pain clinic and Ostomy unit), raised a suggestion to the MOH to name the Hosital in his name, the MOH agreed.
After the occupation, there were many places and hospitals named after Saddam or some of the dead Baathist, the new government take a decision to replace the names of the places which carry the name of a persons, so they change the name of this hospital.
dan
No, the Oncology and Nuclear Medicine Hoaspital is located in the other side of the city, in Hay Al shifaa.
The word "Hay" means "neighborhood, or district". "Al" means "the". "shifaa" means "cure". It is probably named so because it contains the main hospitals. I don't know the meaning of the word "Jawsag", I guess it has some thing to do with the river.
Arabic language is very difficult, there are many ways of pronouncing the same written word, each way give different meaning.
Truth Teller, I apologize for missreading your words. I thought you meant that the US govt. wanted you dead and that's why you wouldn't go to them for aid. I really respect both you and your family as well even when I disagree because you do seem interested in what others think even if you think otherwise. I also must admit that I'm impressed by how intelligent your family is and how much stress is paid to education. Those are both wonderful things.
I just sincerely hope that once the terrorist insurgency (many of whom seem to be coming from outside of Iraq) is stopped in Mosul and the American presence is lessened that you feel safer and more trusting of our soldiers (most of whom have nothing but good will towards Iraqis).
As for Hazim Al Hafid, based on what you say he seems like a fine man who spent his days serving others. I'm not quite sure why the authorities would remove his name from the hospital.
I'd just like to add to my above comment that you seem to have meant that the authorities took the name of all persons off of all building even if they were not Baathists but I still don't understand the reasoning. Surely non-political men can like Dr. Al Hafid can still be honored even if Baathist names are removed?
hey man..dont you get irritated by all these doritos eating boston people? i mean come on...why dont you speak up!! LEt me say something in your support:-
"monsures and madmojeils opposing the view of TT: heed this mkay....when you kill a malignant cancerous cell...you dont apply radiation to the whole body..other wise you would become a 5.5 feet tall radioactive isotope....same goes for iraq...if you needed saddam's love so much why didn't you just abducted and married him in your lustrous beach house in Tahiti? You have special ops,seal teams ,marine brigades this that blah..blah..blah...just sending them in a covert operation (like those shown in Hollywood movies) would have been enough....but noooo...you had to spare the life of innocent Iraqi and U.S people....you had to see their guts flying like proud cranes from fire from the opposite side...death has become so cheap...due to International politics...so thats all...thanks for screwing yet another beautiful and enriched country (i'm in no way supporting saddam's regime, have you seen him have sex with satan in southpark episode 410:Do the handicapped go to hel?)..but dude, you messed it all up...wahhhh"
To truth teller: Dont be disappointed ya all...always remember there are worse places on earth than your...for instance take our country, Bangladesh...here our oppressors are not some yankee-doodle from North-Carolina but we ourselves...so cheer up and may you see the light of dawn again if you are not killed by a stray bullet or the AHEM! accidental fire of an M1-A1 Abraham. ^_^
lynnette in minnesota
the strykerfamily(dad, aunt, wife .... etc.
dan
To get rid of the un trust condition between us. I made a positive movement toward the solution.
I choose a lovely person to do the job instead of me. He is the founder, the organizer and the head of the Ostmy unit, the Cancer Pain Clinic, and the CME program in the Directorate of health in Mosul. A well known, very efficientt, intellegent, educated and open minded person. He is a specialist in surgery and involved in most of the scientific activity of the health sector in Mosul. In addition he is a member of the Iraqi Cancer and of the Cancer Society in Mosul.
I call him yesterday and he agreed to take the responsibility and all the administrative procedure regarding the receive of the donated Ostomy appliances.
I suggest you either call him or e-mail him to organize the proposed work between you. he speak english very fluently and have experience as he is the one who arranged the Canadian donation of the Ostomy appliances in the past.
If you agree, I will give you his full adress, e-mail adress, and phone number. Just let me know.
I have been in contact with Truth Teller by email and, with his kind assistance, I have spoken to the doctor he mentioned as a contact in Mosul. This contact seemed like a very nice guy (I will not reveal his name here for security reasons).
I have arranged for an initial small shipment to go from OstomyCareSupply.com via Fedex to the hospital in Mosul, with a projected shipping date of July 5. I will report Fedex tracking information on the shipment here when it becomes available, and the contact at the hospital has said he will email me when it arrives.
What I am sending is a pitiful drop in the bucket compared to what is needed, although the cost is about what I spend on lunch and cigarettes in a month.
Anybody who wants to chip in may want to phone Cynthia Hacherl at OstomyCareSupply.com, (866)207-5909, cynthia@ostomycaresupply.com .
For those who have questioned the advisability of sending donations to Iraq, I suggest that sending medical supplies to a hospital is as close as any person can reasonably expect to get to placing assistance directly in a patient's hands. Strykerdad suggested that Mosul hospitals were a hangout for bad guys, but a recent news story of a suicide bomb attack on Iraqi cops sleeping at a hospital suggests they are actually a hangout for Iraqi police. The motivations of a medical professional are likely to lean much more toward saving lives than taking them, and medical supplies are real hard to use as munitions. Considering that the Iraqi Health Ministry is clearly a top-down socialized medicine bureaucracy operating in the chaos of what is charitably called a "regime change" I find reports of shortages of medical supplies totally, totally plausible. When there is a shortage of medical supplies, people suffer and die.
dan
"MOSUL, IRAQ (July 2, 2005) – Over 1,000 citizens and 500 Iraqi Police from numerous villages in southern Ninewah Province participated in a historic event today. This was the first March Against Terrorism and was conducted in the town of Qayyarah south of Mosul today. This was a strong demonstration which indicated citizens have had enough.
Many influential sheiks, mukhtars and imams took the lead to support and rally together citizens from all backgrounds, including Arabs and a large contingent of Kurds from east of the Tigris."
Yes dan, that is wright, a demonstration in the city of Qayyarah against terrorism is planed and done in the supposed time, the march was planed to proceed to Mosul, but I don't know why it confined to Qyyarah. Almost all sort of people share in it. It is not a surprise as we all Arabs, kurds, Muslims, christians and other minorities, are ready to marsh against terrorism if this will do any good. We all agreed that terrorism is an act of devil and not to the benefit of this country. We want to get rid of terrorism.
The only thing we differ in, is that the definition of terrorist.
We consider the ones who invaded our country, killed our citizens, demolished our cities, frightened our children and destroyed our future are the reall terrorist. No matter who is he, or from where he came, or what an excuse he put to justify his act.
Strictly speaking, I think the definition of "terrorist" is someone who trys to frighten people into doing what they want. Truthteller, do you rally believe the American troops are trying to frighten Iraqis into doing anything in particular, except perhaps not killing Americans and other Iraqis?
mitra
"This wounded person was shooting at the Marines. He had been captured a day ago and released, and then he started shooting again at the Marines. The way I understand it, the guy pretended to be dead and then started moving in front of the Marine, and that prompted the shot."
Your description of the event is so foolish indicating you are just trying to get an excuse to every inhuman things done by your barbarian country men. The story is well known and decumented, only a ignorant and stupid idiot like you will think as you did.
To all other commentators.
Sorry for bothering you with these offensive words. I apologise to you for this angry responce to mitra.
It is the first time I write such offensive word to a commentators, do you know why?
It is because of this stupid sentences he wrote.
"Its that stupid religion of yours that turns you into an imbecile."
This statement reflect the hatred of him and of his ilk toword Islam. And I am sure it is not a tongue slip, other wise hs have the time to correct it.
I am sure no one of you agree with him. But I still want your opinions about his statement. It is very important to me.
I was in the process of reconsider my attitude toword others, especially the american. But this made me feel that I was right in my feeling.
strykerwife45
"I do not believe it is right to criticize your religion."
I was expecting the same from all of you, thank you.
Now, I know what really happened in Iraque.
ann
"I wonder if Truth Teller realizes that some of his posts on this blog are suggestive of and encouragement of his own daughters committing these acts?"
I am sure you understand me wrong, I never encourage suicide in any way.
The thing which I think you misunderstand me, is the fact that I considered fighting the occupation is a necessity for every citizen, not only for Iraqi but for every one all over this earth.
To bomb your self or suicide in a car bomb, It is against our believe as Muslims.
I found this article while I surfing the internet (In an Amerivan site).
what I understand from this, is that those spider were spread by U.S. servicemen who served in the Persian Gulf War in 1991, and re-spread at the beginning of the Iraq War in 2003:
"Camel spiders are the subject of a variety of legendary claims, many of them familiar to Americans because they were spread by U.S. servicemen who served in the Persian Gulf War in 1991, and re-spread at the beginning of the Iraq War in 2003:"
The site from where I read this is:
http://www.snopes.com/photos/bugs/camelspider.asp
Other site about the same subject is:
http://www.faunaimportuk.com/caresheets/cswindspider.htm
Wadood al Sistani
Al salam alaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatoho.
Thank you very much for stoping by my blog, and leaving a comment.
I appreciate that and hope you will do it again.
fi aman allah.
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