In the interview,most of whom confessed that they killed so and so, attacked the police centers and some even confessed that they rape many women.
Today in the news they show us that the police releases 118 arrested persons who were proved to be innocents.
Before I heard this news, I was talking to one of my patients, he lived in a village 20 km from Mosul, he told me this story:
"yesterday I visited one of my relative, who was arrested for suspicious of being terrorist, he appeared on the TV and confessed during the inreview that he killed so many people and did other offensive acts. When we asked him how did they released you and you did so and so, he answered that the police officers had tortured him and beat him almost to death, and dictated the answers for him befor asking them, and forced him to say that confession in the TV conversation."This remind me in a note from one of the commenter to my post "In the hand of justice" who said "In the west it is believed better to release 10 suspected criminals than to mistakenly punish one innocent. Without indisputable evidence or testimony even the most evil and vile people are set free."
I want to ask him (the commenter) what he will say about 118 persons arrested and tortured and forced to confess of being did some things never happened?? . Are the people in the west differ from the people in the middle east??
BTW. I believed this story is true because, as I told you before, the assumed terrorists confessed killing some peoples who still alive, I know one of those who their names mentioned as being killed.
ps. We have a ministry called (Ministry of Human rights).!!!
Where are the human rights ??
7 comments:
I think justice is not perfect anywhere. In the USA a person who is arrested is VERY unlikely to be tortured by police. He may be insulted, and he may be subdued by force if he is violent, but no force will be used to make him say things he does not wish to say. Sometimes, in very rare instances, police here behave badly. Police who behave badly are punished, although their misbehavior may be hard to prove and the punishment may seem light.
The statistic of "better to release 10 suspected criminals than to mistakenly punish one innocent" is probably more theory than practice. In actual fact, approximately 90% or more of people arrested in the USA for a crime are later convicted of that crime in a court. It is hard to win in court arguing against the police, and a policeman will usually be believed more than a person he arrests.
However, the reason our police win in court may be that they do NOT arrest innocent people. Certainly, if my house is robbed I have no hope of the police finding the robber and returning what was stolen unless it is totally obvious who robbed me. If they COULD find the person and be certain he was guilty they would, but they will not search peoples houses simply they live nearby, they will not arrest someone without good evidence, and they will NOT torture someone to make him confess.
This makes it had to fight crime in the USA, and there is crime here, although it is not as crazy as Iraq. People own guns here, but there is a law against carrying a loaded gun in public. Few people do it, and there is generally no reason to. Once, many years ago, I was attacked at night. I escaped, and because I had more things to do that night I went home and got my gun. Later the same night a policeman stopped me. I was arrested. I was NOT tortured, but the policeman called me "stupid". I was released from jail without the gun the next morning. I never saw the gun again. The person who attacked me was never caught by the police. The people who have robbed my house have never been caught by the police. I have never met anyone who said they were tortured by the police. That is my experience with the police in the USA.
Sacramento, California
Hi Truth Teller,
There was a news story on the TV show "48 Hours" this past Friday talking about a man here in New York who was convicted of murdering his parents, based off a confession he gave after being aggressively interrogated - a confession he later recanted. Here is a link if you are interested.
There have been a number of other cases here in the US where a suspect, who was convicted based on a confession obtained during an interrogation, was later exonorated by DNA evidence that proved he couldn't have committed the crime he confessed to.
The point here is that a skillful interrogator can sometimes put enough pressure on a suspect to get him to confess to something he didn't do, even without using torture. What needs to be considered is whether the suspect was able to provide additional detail along with his confession that were not known to the interrogator (where the body was dropped, where the weapon was hidden, etc.), and whether there is other evidence (other witnesses, physical evidence, etc.) to corroborate the confession.
Shawn.
meet the new boss
same as the old boss
-- "Won't get fooled again" by Pete Townshend
I don't think there is an idealogical answer to this.
Somebody is benefiting: By receiving money or political status or other favors. Or perhaps they are avoiding the threat of arrest or punishment for something they did or did not do themselves (now or in the former regime) by making these television shows.
Praktike asked a good question: Who operates NinevahTV?
Who is benefiting?
And who is paying for it?
-- Tilli (Mojave Desert)
Hi Truth-Teller,
I really enjoy reading your family's blogs and I feel for all of the suffering that you are going through. Especially the children that have never known peace in their lives. I hope that someday soon you all will be able to live with peace and security.
I am a bit confused with this last post of yours. Are you saying that people that are on the TV confessing to terror and murder are then being released? What then would be the point in torturing them to confess to crimes that they did not commit?
In a previous post you quoted "Other thing, is that the people here, accept any thing they heard, especially if this thing meets their wishes, or close to their believes." That is a scary thought considering that that is exactly the kind of person that the Bin Ladens of the world need. How in the world is it possible to have a whole culture of people who were never taught to think? How could a culture survive with that kind of mentality? As an educated person it must be very frustrating for you to be surrounded by so much cognitive laziness.
praktik
Nenavah TV is operated by the government.
lynn in the US
You asked I am a bit confused with this last post of yours. Are you saying that people that are on the TV confessing to terror and murder are then being released? What then would be the point in torturing them to confess to crimes that they did not commit?
Yes SOME of them were released because they were found to be innocents. The confessions on TV were a propaganda to the Iraqi police. they were tortured and forced to say what they did on TV.
Then We are sorry, it is all a mistake.
Greetings,
It is hard to know what to believe sometimes.
Can you find out if this story is true.
http://americanfuture.typepad.com/
I would like to believe it is.
Papa Ray
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